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Новые подробности о "деле Ламы". Бобропорядочные, хехе, эльфы 80-го уровня мусульмане могут продолжать делать вид, что ничего не было и проклятые кяфиры злобно клевещут. Может, они надеются, что количество (300+ апологетических комментариев) перейдёт в качество? Ну-ну.

У бопропорядочных мусульман не хватает не то совести, не то смелости признать одну, но основополагающую, если можно так выразиться, истину. Нелюди, всё это (и это) вытворяющие, никакие не особенные выродки или исключения. Напротив, это, опять же, если можно так выразиться, норма. Они вытворяют это потому, что ещё с пелёнок у них в голове стоит сплошной треск: аллах-коран-мухаммад, мухаммад-аллах-коран, иншалла, бисмилля рахим алла, молчи женщина когда джигит говорит, аллахуакбар, сражайтесь с теми, кто не верует в аллаха... и так до бесконечности - дурной, тупой, кровавой бесконечности.

Не с кем разговаривать. И не о чем.

Сведения из уложений о наказаниях некоторых исламских стран:

Iran:

Article 220 of the Iranian Criminal Code states: If a father “or his male ancestors kill their children, they will not be prosecuted for murder.” Likewise, article 1179 of the Civil Code states, “Parents have the right to punish their children within the limits prescribed by law.”

Pakistan:

Under Pakistani law, families can escape punishment by following a few simple steps: a brother ‘confesses’ to having killed his sister. His father ‘forgives’ him, or accepts blood money. No money actually changes hands and the matter is closed. . . . A law introduced in October 2004, which laid down tougher penalties for such murders, has had no visible effect in reducing the number of such crimes.
“We have noted no significant decrease in the number of such killings since the law was enforced in early 2005. As we have stated previously, until the issue of compoundability, which makes it possible for blood money to be paid to compensate for physical hurt, is addressed, there is unlikely to be any real change in the situation,” the rights commission’s director IA Rehman told IRIN.

Palestinian Authority Area:

In Palestinian territories, a murder is regarded as less serious if it is an honor killing, and thus honor killers receive from six to twelve months’ jail. This stems from Jordanian legislation from 1960.

Jordan:

Article 340 of the Jordanian Penal Code affirms that “he who discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery with another, and he kills, wounds or injures one or both of them, is exempt from any penalty… he who discovers his wife, or one of his female ascendants or descendants or sisters with another in an unlawful bed and he kills, wounds or injures one or both of them, benefits from a reduction of penalty.” In addition to this, Article 98 of the Penal Code allows a reduced sentence if a perpetrator kills in a “fit of fury”.

Syria:

Article 548 of the Syrian Legal Code states: “1: He who catches his wife, or one of his ascendants, descendants or sister committing adultery (flagrante delicto) or illegitimate sex acts with another and he kills or injures one of both of them benefits from an exemption of penalty. 2: He who catches his wife, or one of his ascendants, descendants or sister in a suspicious state (attitude equivoce) with another and he kills or injures one of both of them benefits from an exemption of penalty.”

Yemen:

In Yemen, the law makes allowances for honor killings. Article 232 of the Yemeni Penal Code rules that: “if a man kills his wife or her alleged lover in the act of committing adultery or attacking them causing disability, he may be fined or sentenced to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year.”

Morocco:

Morocco too sanctions honor killings in its penal code. Article 418 states: “Murder, injury and beating are excusable if they are committed by a husband on his wife as well as the accomplice at the moment in which he surprises them in the act of adultery.[

Egypt:

“Article 17 of Egypt’s Penal Code allows judges to decrease sentences in murder cases if they decide that the murder’s condition merits it. As a result, a sentence can be as little as six months’ duration. In Article 277 of the Penal Code, a man can commit adultery only within his marital home. A woman is adulterous within or outside of the home, and need not be caught “in the act” for a husband to use the defense of inflamed emotions.[25]
In the remote Nehag Dara area of Upper Dir, a Jirga has barred registration of honour-related murder, going as far as to rule that reporting honor killings is punishable by death.

Repeating the situation encountered three years earlier,[25] in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament twice voted on Islamic grounds to reject an amended Penal Code law designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.

Цитируется по источнику Викиислам, внизу статьи указаны источники, использованные авторами статьи

Date: 2013-02-14 21:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackstonebite.livejournal.com
комментариев уже больше 700 для справки за убийство детей не наказывают (а о у вас там интеллегентный знаток шариата трелями поет)

Iran:

Article 220 of the Iranian Criminal Code states: If a father “or his male ancestors kill their children, they will not be prosecuted for murder.” Likewise, article 1179 of the Civil Code states, “Parents have the right to punish their children within the limits prescribed by law.”

Pakistan:

Under Pakistani law, families can escape punishment by following a few simple steps: a brother ‘confesses’ to having killed his sister. His father ‘forgives’ him, or accepts blood money. No money actually changes hands and the matter is closed. . . . A law introduced in October 2004, which laid down tougher penalties for such murders, has had no visible effect in reducing the number of such crimes.
“We have noted no significant decrease in the number of such killings since the law was enforced in early 2005. As we have stated previously, until the issue of compoundability, which makes it possible for blood money to be paid to compensate for physical hurt, is addressed, there is unlikely to be any real change in the situation,” the rights commission’s director IA Rehman told IRIN.

Palestinian Authority Area:

In Palestinian territories, a murder is regarded as less serious if it is an honor killing, and thus honor killers receive from six to twelve months’ jail. This stems from Jordanian legislation from 1960.

Jordan:

Article 340 of the Jordanian Penal Code affirms that “he who discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery with another, and he kills, wounds or injures one or both of them, is exempt from any penalty… he who discovers his wife, or one of his female ascendants or descendants or sisters with another in an unlawful bed and he kills, wounds or injures one or both of them, benefits from a reduction of penalty.” In addition to this, Article 98 of the Penal Code allows a reduced sentence if a perpetrator kills in a “fit of fury”.

Syria:

Article 548 of the Syrian Legal Code states: “1: He who catches his wife, or one of his ascendants, descendants or sister committing adultery (flagrante delicto) or illegitimate sex acts with another and he kills or injures one of both of them benefits from an exemption of penalty. 2: He who catches his wife, or one of his ascendants, descendants or sister in a suspicious state (attitude equivoce) with another and he kills or injures one of both of them benefits from an exemption of penalty.”

Yemen:

In Yemen, the law makes allowances for honor killings. Article 232 of the Yemeni Penal Code rules that: “if a man kills his wife or her alleged lover in the act of committing adultery or attacking them causing disability, he may be fined or sentenced to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year.”

Morocco:

Morocco too sanctions honor killings in its penal code. Article 418 states: “Murder, injury and beating are excusable if they are committed by a husband on his wife as well as the accomplice at the moment in which he surprises them in the act of adultery.[

Egypt:

“Article 17 of Egypt’s Penal Code allows judges to decrease sentences in murder cases if they decide that the murder’s condition merits it. As a result, a sentence can be as little as six months’ duration. In Article 277 of the Penal Code, a man can commit adultery only within his marital home. A woman is adulterous within or outside of the home, and need not be caught “in the act” for a husband to use the defense of inflamed emotions.[25]
In the remote Nehag Dara area of Upper Dir, a Jirga has barred registration of honour-related murder, going as far as to rule that reporting honor killings is punishable by death.

Repeating the situation encountered three years earlier,[25] in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament twice voted on Islamic grounds to reject an amended Penal Code law designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”

Date: 2013-02-14 21:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabblgob.livejournal.com
шариат во всей своей красе, чо
надо вынести в осн. пост, под кат убрать, конечно
вот же твари неолитические :(

Date: 2013-02-15 04:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] levchin.livejournal.com
Да какое там! хтонические! неолит на этом фоне прямо рай.
Тогда уже умели любить своих детей, насколько я понимаю.
А эти... как он её ещё не съел-то?

Date: 2013-02-15 12:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabblgob.livejournal.com
==как он её ещё не съел-то?==
побрезговал, небось, ведь "не девственница"
хотя вот недавно какой-то ебипетский бесослов договорился до того, что из неверных можно щящьлик-мащьлык делать, оллах одобряэ

Date: 2013-02-15 14:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackpost.livejournal.com
Стоит еще вспомнить недавний разговор о правилах некрофилии.

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Date: 2013-02-15 14:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaydevvy.livejournal.com

Извините, навеяло. Насчёт можно ли есть человечину мустардам или нельзя. Там целый свод правил, как правильно это делать ;-|

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Date: 2013-02-15 15:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaydevvy.livejournal.com
Он её не съел, потому , что она не была врагом , форальном, в противном случае съесть её было бы богоугодным делом( нуещё если бы он голоден был бы, тогда святым). Ну вообщем, людей они, едят согласно правилам ;-|

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Date: 2013-02-15 08:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaydevvy.livejournal.com
У жителей неолита законы,скорее всего,были более человечными

Date: 2013-02-15 10:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabblgob.livejournal.com
не могу этого исключить

Date: 2013-02-15 11:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackstonebite.livejournal.com
я приношу извинения за объем коммента - просто некоторые доброхоты достали своими писаниями, не имеющими отношения к действительности, и захотелось поставить точку

Date: 2013-02-15 12:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabblgob.livejournal.com
если бы можно было в таком разговоре когда-нибудь поставить точку! :(((

Date: 2013-02-15 14:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackpost.livejournal.com
Весьма своевременно.

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Date: 2013-02-15 15:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravil-tugushev.livejournal.com
Вы как я понял в первоисточники явно не заглядывали и просто перепечатали чьи то бредни.
К примеру у Вас говорится то что:
>>Article 220 of the Iranian Criminal Code states: If a father “or his male ancestors kill their children, they will not be prosecuted for murder.” Likewise, article 1179 of the Civil Code states, “Parents have the right to punish their children within the limits prescribed by law.”<<
А вот о чем в действительности гласит статья 220 Уголовного кодекса республики Иран:
While processing children’s crimes, the court is bound to inform the parents or legal guardians that the child has to report to the court in person or hire an attorney for him or her. If the parents or legal guardians of the child neither appear in court nor hire an attorney, the court will assign a public defender for the child.
http://www.iranhrdc.org/english/human-rights-documents/iranian-codes/1000000026-english-translation-of-the-islamic-republic-of-irans-criminal-code-of-procedure-for-public-and-revolutionary-courts.html#.UR5X6t9zZqw
далее смотрим по Египту, и так у Вас:
>>“Article 17 of Egypt’s Penal Code allows judges to decrease sentences in murder cases if they decide that the murder’s condition merits it. As a result, a sentence can be as little as six months’ duration. In Article 277 of the Penal Code, a man can commit adultery only within his marital home. A woman is adulterous within or outside of the home, and need not be caught “in the act” for a husband to use the defense of inflamed emotions.[25]
In the remote Nehag Dara area of Upper Dir, a Jirga has barred registration of honour-related murder, going as far as to rule that reporting honor killings is punishable by death.<<
А вот что в действительности говорится в Уголовном кодексе Египта:
Article 17
In felony counts, if the conditions of the crime for which the popular action is brought necessitate
the judge's lenity, the penalty may be changed as follows:
Capital punishment penalty may be replaced by a life hard labor or temporary hard labor penalty.
A permanent hard labor penalty may be replaced by a temporary hard labor penalty or by
imprisonment.
A temporary hard labor penalty may be replaced by imprisonment or confinement penalty that may
not be less than six months.
An imprisonment sentence may be replaced by confinement penalty which may not be less than
three months.


По остальным Вашим "источникам" будем проверять или так признаете то что выложили не проверенное вранье?

P.S. Честно говоря поражаюсь, вроде взрослые люди но верите любому дерьму выложенному в сети.
Edited Date: 2013-02-15 16:00 (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-15 17:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravil-tugushev.livejournal.com
Так Вам может еще и на фарси привести УК Ирана?
А по поводы лжи в отношении УК Египта ничего не хотите сказать?

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Date: 2013-02-16 08:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravil-tugushev.livejournal.com
>>>успехов в разоблачении врагов ислама <<<
Вы меня не за того принимаете. Я не ищу "врагов Ислама". А вот сетевым врунишкам лишний раз напомнить о том что они завираются все же стоит. :-)

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Date: 2013-02-15 16:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackstonebite.livejournal.com
и вот вам еще туда же http://sociolegal.blogspot.co.il/2006/11/irans-penal-code.html

и заметьте, что в той версии, которую иран предоставил в распоряжение комитета оон по правам человека статья 220 скромно опущена.

и продолжайте верить тому дерьму, которое маньяки выкладывают в сеть

Date: 2013-02-15 17:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravil-tugushev.livejournal.com
>>и продолжайте верить тому дерьму, которое маньяки выкладывают в сеть<<
Вообще то это по Вашей части. Я предпочитаю прежде чем что то выкладывать несколько раз перепроверять.

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Date: 2013-02-15 17:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avi-goldstein.livejournal.com
Исламский Уголовный кодекс Исламской Республики Иран (ИРИ) [основан на Джаффаритском мазхабе, принятом у шиитов]. Всё по Русски:

http://darkdiary.ru/users/Motakudgi/3031915/comment

http://p-elizarov.livejournal.com/166600.html

http://www.mediaforum.az/rus/2011/12/02/AMNESTY-INTERNATIONAL-%D0%9F%D0%A0%D0%98%D0%97%D0%92%D0%90%D0%9B-%D0%98%D0%97%D0%9C%D0%95%D0%9D%D0%98%D0%A2%D0%AC-%D0%A3%D0%93%D0%9E%D0%9B%D0%9E%D0%92%D0%9D%D0%AB%D0%99-064807253c.html

и так далее ...

Date: 2013-02-15 17:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravil-tugushev.livejournal.com
Ави Вы не смотрели на ссылку которую я там выше дал?
Посмотрите:
http://www.iranhrdc.org/english/human-rights-documents/iranian-codes/1000000026-english-translation-of-the-islamic-republic-of-irans-criminal-code-of-procedure-for-public-and-revolutionary-courts.html#.UR5xR99zZqx
А после того как посмотрите сравните с тем бредом на который ссылаетесь Вы.

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Date: 2013-02-15 18:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackpost.livejournal.com
Странно, Вы же не доверяете американцам

The IHRDC welcomes any inquiries via phone, fax, email or post below:

Iran Human Rights Documentation Center
129 Church Street
Suite 304
New Haven, Connecticut
06510 U.S.A



Tel: 1 (203) 772 2218
Fax: 1 (203) 772 1782

Date: 2013-02-15 18:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avi-goldstein.livejournal.com
А Азербайджану Равиль тоже не доверяет? Я у него попросил выше в этой дискуссии прокомментировать вот эту дикость - это-мол тоже выдумка (небыло всего этого и статьи такой в их УК нет) или не выдумка: http://www.mediaforum.az/rus/2011/12/02/AMNESTY-INTERNATIONAL-%D0%9F%D0%A0%D0%98%D0%97%D0%92%D0%90%D0%9B-%D0%98%D0%97%D0%9C%D0%95%D0%9D%D0%98%D0%A2%D0%AC-%D0%A3%D0%93%D0%9E%D0%9B%D0%9E%D0%92%D0%9D%D0%AB%D0%99-064807253c.html

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Date: 2013-02-15 18:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shomanka.livejournal.com
Вроде взрослые люди, а верите, что солнце садится в зловонную лужу.

Date: 2013-02-15 18:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avi-goldstein.livejournal.com
Кстати, вот тут объяснили насчёт того, в чём у нас здесь "спор". Мы приводим их УК а вы нам назад ссылаетесь на их УПК. И это существенная разница. Почитайте тут: http://p-elizarov.livejournal.com/166600.html?thread=848584#t848584

Date: 2013-02-15 19:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackpost.livejournal.com
Точно. Там почему-то нет уголовного кодекса, видимо неспроста. Или я не не нашел?

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